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Dear Experts, I am writing again to this thread essentially regarding the two doubts I have: (1) The process I am generating is pp->eeEE with only Ex or ex as the propagator. I get two feynman diagrams. Please find that attached (feynmanDiag.png). In these two diagrams, I understand (by looking at the sign of arrow) that ex in both the cases is negatively charged. Am I missing the diagrams with Ex as the propagator here? (2) For this particular process if I require only Ex as the propagator, then I again get the two same diagrams as shown in feynmanDiag_withonlyEx_aspropagator.png For this particular set, I expected only 1 diagram. Is something going wrong with the process? Or is this expected? Thanks for your help, Best Regards, Shilpi ________________________________________ From: comphep-common-bounces at theory.sinp.msu.ru [comphep-common-bounces at theory.sinp.msu.ru] on behalf of Shilpi Jain [Shilpi.Jain at cern.ch] Sent: 01 October 2012 22:11 To: dubinin at theory.sinp.msu.ru Cc: comphep-common at theory.sinp.msu.ru Subject: Re: [Comphep-common] COMPHEP for excited leptons - confirmation about the checks before production Dear Edward, Mikhail, Thanks a lot for explaining that to me and sending the links. I went through the relevant part of the paper. I have a few small doubts. For all the cases, I understand that the arrow shows the particle flow and not the momentum. I could not get the exact regularization scheme as given in the paper for e+e- - > nubar + e- + u + dbar On P-1041 of the paper, some of the members in the list of regularization which I get ( and which do not match with the list given in the paper) are: (P1+P2): 12 = M_gamma = 0 - diag 1 12 = MZ - diag - diag 3 (P4-P1-P2): 412 = Melectron = 0 - diag 4 (P1-P3-P4): 134 = M_nu = 0 - diag 2 Moreover for my case, I get the following regularization for kinematic scheme ( u(1) + U(2) -> e(3) + e(4) + E(5) + E(6) ): 512, 612, 312, 412 [ Since 1 + 2 = 3 + e*. So for the propagator e*, its momentum is becomes = 1 + 2 - 3 ] Please let me know where I am going wrong. Thanks & Regards, Shilpi ________________________________________ From: Mikhail Dubinin [dubinin at theory.sinp.msu.ru] Sent: 01 October 2012 10:14 To: Shilpi Jain Cc: boos at theory.sinp.msu.ru; comphep-common at theory.sinp.msu.ru Subject: Re: [Comphep-common] COMPHEP for excited leptons - confirmation about the checks before production Dear Shilpi, besides the manual, you can find two examples with many details (particle numbering, regularizations, kinematical scheme, etc) CMS twiki https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/CMS/Regularization Survey in Uspekhi (example somewhere in the middle) Edward Boos, Mikhail Dubinin, Problems of automatic calculation for collider physics, Phys.Usp. 53 (2010) 1039-1051 Please look through these practical materials, hope a number of useful recommendations can be found there. Regards Mikhail On Sun, 2012-09-30 at 22:45 +0000, Shilpi Jain wrote: > Dear Edward, > > Thanks for your response. > > (1) I put the width of resonance (0.0002173 GeV for 800 GeV mass e*) > Since the process is: > > u(1) +U (2) -> e (3) + e* -> e (3) + e(4) + E(5) + E(6) > > whereas number in the bracket denotes the number of the particle > in COMPHEP as I understand. > I am still not sure about the particle numbering. > In the manual, it is written that > "It is assumed that particles are numerated in the same order as they are written down in > the (sub)process name" > > Does this mean that if I put the process as u,U -> E, e, E, e while preparing > my process (as shown in process.png) > then the numbering will be like this: > u(1), U(2) -> E(3), e(4), E(5), e(6) > > (2) I put the regularization as follows (also shown in attached regularization.png): > ========================================== > momentum | Mass | Width | power > 312 | Mex | wex | 2 > ========================================== > > [ since P(e*) = P(e) - P(u) - P(U) ] > > But I get the error of "Bad precision" during vegas. This is shown in the attached vegas.png file. > > I think I am doing something wrong somewhere. Could you please help me > in correcting this? > > Thanks a lot for your help, > Best Regards, > Shilpi > > > ________________________________________ > From: Eduard Boos [boos at theory.sinp.msu.ru] > Sent: 30 September 2012 17:42 > To: Shilpi Jain > Cc: comphep-common at theory.sinp.msu.ru > Subject: Re: [Comphep-common] COMPHEP for excited leptons - confirmation about the checks before production > > Dear Jian, > If you have a resonance in the intermediate state you have to put the > width of the resonance. Make sure, you did that and also introduce the > corresponding "Regularization". You have 4-fermion interactions which > violate unitary behaviour, so one should not be surprise with growing > energy or pt distributions. Yes, the errors are in %. If you put cuts, > the cross section is the one from the corresponding kinematic area. > > Please, have a look into the CompHEP manual for details. > > Best, Edward > > > > Dear Experts, > > > > I am running COMPHEP for the following process: > > qqbar->e*e->e,E,E,e > > i.e. e* decaying to 3 leptons via contact interaction. > > > > Just as a check I tried running for: > > u+U->e,E,E,e > > > > (1) I got two feynman diagrams. > > Please find attached feynmanDiag.png > > I understand that these two diagrams correspond to > > e*+ in one and e*- in the other. > > Do you think this is correct? > > > > > > (2) The kinematic scheme showed by COMPHEP (also attached: > > kinematic_scheme.png) is as follows: > > u,U->e,e,E,E > > ========================================================= > > in=12 -> out1=3 out2 =456 > > in=456 -> out1=4 out2=56 > > in=56 -> out1=5 out2=6 > > ========================================================= > > I am not sure about how the naming of the particles is done. > > I understand that 456 always refer to the particles coming out from e* and > > 3 refers to the > > one which is produced in conjunction with e*. > > This scheme is valid for both the feynam diagrams > > Do you think this understanding is correct? > > > > > > (3) After putting Itmax=10 ; ncalls = 9720, > > Please find the result of numerical calculation attached (please find > > comphepNumericalSession.ng attached). > > The final xsec is: 3.035e-3 with an error of 4.59e-1. Is this error in %? > > So the final error is > > 4.59e-1 times 3.035e-3? > > > > Do you think the results are fine? > > > > (4) I get the following distributions for E4, M456 (please find pt4.png > > and M456.png attached) > > I see that: > > (a) cross-section is increasing with E4. Shouldn't it start decreasing > > after some point? > > (b) M456 should have peaked at 400 since I understand that 456 are coming > > from the decay of e*. > > It is peaking but it is not sharply peaked. > > > > All these distributions are done for pT of the outgoing particles > 15 GeV > > and |eta| < 3.1 > > > > Do you think something is wrong going here? > > > > Please let me know if you require more input from my side. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Best Regards, > > Shilpi Jain > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Comphep-common mailing list > > Comphep-common at theory.sinp.msu.ru > > http://theory.sinp.msu.ru/mailman/listinfo/comphep-common > > > > _______________________________________________ > Comphep-common mailing list > Comphep-common at theory.sinp.msu.ru > http://theory.sinp.msu.ru/mailman/listinfo/comphep-common _______________________________________________ Comphep-common mailing list Comphep-common at theory.sinp.msu.ru http://theory.sinp.msu.ru/mailman/listinfo/comphep-common -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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