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INTERNET-DRAFT N. Elkins
Inside Products
A. Retana
Cisco
A. Raje
ISOC
Intended Status: Informational
Expires: September 10, 2016 March 9, 2016




Remote Hub Status and Definition
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Abstract

Remote IETF hubs seem to be springing up organically in quite a few
regions. There appear to be regional differences in how hubs are
organized. Latin America has quite a few remote hubs as does India.
The two regions are different in how they arose, where they meet, and
what they do.

Thus, creating a template for a remote hub may not work because hubs
may be very different across cultures and of very different sizes.

Lastly, this document discusses how IETF "central" can assist with
remote hubs.






















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Table of Contents

1 Background . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2 Definition and goals . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2.1 What is a remote hub? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2.2 Goals for remote hubs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2.3 Advantages of remote hubs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
2.4 Drawbacks of remote hubs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
2.5 Questions about remote hubs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
3 Remote hubs by region . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
3.1 Remote hubs in Latin America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
3.2 Remote hubs in India . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
4 IETF central support of remote hubs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
4.1 Web site . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
4.2 Email lists . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
4.3 Regional hosts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
5 IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
6 Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
7 References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
7.1 Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
8 Acknowledgments . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
Authors' Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8





























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1 Background

Remote IETF hubs seem to be springing up organically in quite a few
regions. There appear to be regional differences in how hubs are
organized. Latin America has quite a few remote hubs as does India.
The two regions are different in how they arose, where they meet, and
what they do.

Thus, creating a template for a remote hub may not work because hubs
may be very different across cultures and of very different sizes.

Lastly, this document discusses how IETF "central" can assist with
remote hubs.

2 Definition and goals

2.1 What is a remote hub?

A remote hub can be anything where more than one person gathers to
listen / participate in IETF sessions. It can be as simple as
someone's living room to major hubs with 7 rooms, telepresence and
many people in each. Such large remote hubs do not actually exist at
this point - but they could in the future.

It is NOT necessarily an entire set of IETF sessions viewed in real
time. A remote hub for a full IETF meeting may not be practical. A
remote hub for a working group or a few sessions may work better, at
least in the beginning.

The hubs should be self-sustaining and organize themselves -- that
is, not necessarily driven by a central group.

2.2 Goals for remote hubs

1. People who regularly attend IETF cannot always do so because of
financial constraints. Remote hubs can be one solution.

2. People who WANT to be involved in IETF and have some level of
support (ex. in Latin America, India, etc) with an ongoing group who
can help prepare for the WG session(s). These people would attend
actual IETF meetings, if they could afford it, but they can't - so
they go to a remote hub.

3. There are many valuable people in the academic world who could
participate and are doing potentially relevant work but do not know
much about IETF. Here, support and an ongoing group first needs to
be built who can help prepare for the WG session(s). These people
down the road may want to attend actual IETF meetings, but to start,



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may want to go to a remote hub.

This actually applies to the start-up community as well. One of the
authors of this document was contacted by a Silicon Valley developer
doing sensor development. In the future, he wanted to be involved in
the ROLL Working Group. He could not afford to attend live. This
is a common situation for many in the start-up world. They are doing
innovative work and would bring implementation knowledge and
creativity to the IETF but often cannot afford to attend IETF
meetings in person. If there were an option to be involved in a
remote hub in Silicon Valley, it is likely that quite a few people
would take advantage of that.

2.3 Advantages of remote hubs

1.Not everyone can come to the meetings. Provide that experience.

2. A remote hub can help to create local communities. Building
related communities may be a very important benefit.

3. Remote hubs may increase participation. This is a very important
benefit.

4. There may be topics of local interest.

5. The remote hub can continue to work outside of the IETF meetings.


6. A remote hub should be a better experience than attending remotely
alone. Provides a group of interested individuals or community
with opportunities for networking.

2.4 Drawbacks of remote hubs

1. What if the quality of the network connection is poor? If I have
important work to do, I may just attend from home where I can better
control the connection.

2. What if others do not want to attend the same sessions that I do?


3. This is logistically a complicated deal. Need space or
conference room for the hub.

4. Time zone can be quite challenging






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2.5 Questions about remote hubs

1. What if interest in a given hub spans many tracks?? Especially if
simultaneous session demand exists. Between 5-7 rooms may be needed
to cover various areas. Should there be a hub and "Spoke" arrangement
for different rooms/interests?

2. Will people travel within their country (air and hotel) as a
"cheaper' alternative to traveling internationally?

3. Why would people travel domestically any significant distance,
rather than just set up another remote location?

4. How far should we expect someone to travel to a remote hub?
Should staying overnight be assumed viable?

5. Would someone travel to the remote hub for just one session? May
need to schedule so that everyone at that hub would attend two or
three consecutive sessions to make the travel worthwhile.

6. Scheduling across time zones could be an issue, especially if
time zone of meeting is Asia. Can remote hubs use recordings and
watch together to address time zone differences.

7. Can remote hubs be a viable alternative for ACTIVE participants?
What about a chair or director?

8. Does IETF sponsor any remote hubs?

9. Can remote hubs approach the experience of attending the
meetings?

10. Is there a cost to participate in a IETF meeting at a remote hub?
Physical meeting attendees pay $800, will remote hub attendees have
any expenses?

11. Are there any costs involved in running a remote hub?

12. Is any training or certification needed to be a hub?

3 Remote hubs by region

3.1 Remote hubs in Latin America

Latin America has many remote hubs and plans for many more. They are
organic and may be quite small with only a few individuals interested
in a particular topic. The first remote hub was in the Hawaii IETF
with 50 people attending from hubs. In Dallas IETF, there were 100



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- 200 people and 20 hubs.

They haven't spent any money at all. Many don't even have a
projector. Just a PC. Having 3-4 people discussing is more
interesting than attending a meeting by themselves.

3.2 Remote hubs in India

India has 23 hubs and over 500 members participating remotely at
large universities as a part of the Indian IETF Capacity Building
(IICB) program. The web site www.IICB.org has been set up with more
information on this.


4 IETF central support of remote hubs

4.1 Web site

Web pages to get information out about remote hubs and what they are
covering, schedules and other details/logistics.

4.2 Email lists

Potentially providing emails lists.

4.3 Regional hosts

Maybe regional hosts are needed.

5 IANA Considerations

There are no IANA considerations.

6 Security Considerations

There are no security considerations.

7 References

7.1 Normative References

8 Acknowledgments

The authors would like to thank Christian O'Flaherty and Simon Pietro
Romano for their comments and assistance.






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Authors' Addresses


Nalini Elkins
Inside Products, Inc.
Carmel Valley, CA 93924
USA
Phone: +1 831 659 8360
Email: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com

Alvaro Retana
Cisco Systems, Inc.
7025 Kit Creek Rd.
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
USA
EMail: aretana@cisco.com

Anand Raje
ISOC Kolkata
Indian IETF Capacity Building (IICB) program
Kolkata, India
EMail:anand@rabt.in





























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