Is it possible that ancient cultures 7000 years ago knew how to create flying machines to traverse the sky and beyond using a technology that NASA engineers are still trying to harness today?
The first artificial satellite launched famously into orbit was the Russian satellite Sputnik, in 1957. Prior to this, rockets had been used to launch missiles for warfare. The first rocket able to fly high enough to get into space was the German A4/V-2 rocket family launched in 1942. Considering early powered flight and early models of the aeroplane these advances still only date back to the beginning of the 20th century. However there are many books and websites which forcefully and passionately assert that technologically advanced aircraft and spacecraft were in common use over the Indian subcontinent thousands of years ago. These same sources claim that advanced space propulsion techniques being researched by NASA are in fact directly inspired by ancient flying machines.
Could these amazing stories be true? The answer will be obvious to anyone with any knowledge of science or history but let us try to look at the claims as fairly as we can.
In Hindu mythology, demon King Ravana of Lanka (ancient Sri Lanka) brought to the country something called the Pushpaka Vimna. Vimna literally means to traverse or to measure. Other uses of the word refer to a temple or a flying machine. The Pushpaka Vimna is thought to be King Ravanas flying palace which was shaped like a giant peacock. Every country has their myths and legends. In Ireland, Finn McCool is a familiar character in ancient stories. So where does fiction meet fact? How is this ancient flying machine relevant to today?
Some say that “ancient scriptures” tell of these ancient aeronauts, but there is no record of these documents prior to the last century. A publication called the Vaimnika Shastra or the Science of Aeronautics, is a 20th century text written by one Subbaraya Shastry sometime between 1918-1923. However the information provided in this book is believed to have been obtained by psychic channelling with the ancient Saint Bharadvaja. Subbaraya Shastry was believed to have contracted leprosy. He left his home and spent nine years living in the forest. During this time he is supposed to have spoken with the ancient saint (sage Bharadvaja) and was enlightened with this new found knowledge of flying machines. He later returned home (as he also had been cured of leprosy), but Shastry could not read or write so he dictated his new knowledge over the period of 5 years,( 25 years after the psychic experience itself). The dictated text was apparently discovered in 1952 by G.R Josyer who later translated it into English in 1973. This publication contains eight chapters claiming that ancient vimnas from the King Ravana legend were actually feasible flying machines, perhaps even similar in ability to rockets. The text indicates that propulsion was provided using rotating gyroscopes of electricity and mercury.
The existing text is said to only be a small section of larger (lost) works. It aims to provide information to pilots on the secrets of hearing and destroying enemy planes at the same time remaining motionless, unbreakable and invisible. According to American author David Hatcher Childress (born 1957), another ancient Indian piece of work that he decoded, Samarangana Sutradhara reveals that these ancient flying vimnas, referred to in Vaimnika Shastra were powered by the metal mercury. He states in the text is says By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky This powerplant is referred to as a “mercury vortex engine”.
The Vaimnika Shastra although dubbed an ancient text in reality was written less than 100 years ago. It was supposedly dictated by psychically channelling an ancient saint; however it was written almost 25 years after the author actually had the experience. The author was believed to be a leper, spending years in isolation. Coincidentally in history, a treatment solution for leprosy was mercury. Perhaps this was inspiration for the fuel of the vimnas? American author David Hatcher Childress has published over 200 books mostly on unusual topics such as ancient astronauts and the lost city of Atlantis, however Childress works have been criticised by historical archaeologists for being factually incorrect. He is also the owner of a publishing house and no doubt mysterious topics gather more interest in sales.
A study by the aeronautical and mechanical engineering department at the Indian Institute of Science in 1974, referred to the crafts as poor concoctions and the crafts themselves were unfeasible for flight. The text also does not explain how the vimnas actually get up into the air and the information appears as though the author has knowledge of some modern machinery (that is to say modern for the early 1900s), yet there appears to be little to no understanding of aeronautics. The illustrations provided were based upon the text, and are more comparable to steampunk flying machines. So despite the fact that these creations are masquerading as ancient designs, in truth this is far from the reality.
NASA (and other research organisations) have been experimenting with the ion propulsion concept since the 1950s. In an ion propulsion engine, the gas is held in a chamber surrounded by magnets. An electrical charge causes the atoms to lose electrons, therefore turning them into ions. As the ionised gas jet is expelled out of the craft, it is then propelled in the opposite direction.In the 1970s when this technology was being trialled in earthbound laboratories, mercury or caesium was used as propellant. Mercury is liquid at room temperature and caesium is a solid. Therefore, they were both relatively easy to store. In order to be used as a propellant both elements needed to be heated to become a gas.
The problems arose when some of the gases condensed and leaked onto the ground. Caesium is radioactive, can be corrosive and is very dangerous. Mercury is also a neurotoxin and is thought to be one of the more dangerous metals and exposure to it can cause various health problems. After determining that both these elements were much too toxic and dangerous to use, scientists turned to using Xenon, an odourless, colourless gas which is generally unreactive. This futuristic idea was used on the Dawn spacecraft. This craft was launched in 2007 and travelled towards the asteroid belt using ion propulsion engines visiting Vesta. It is intended to reach the dwarf planet Ceres located in the asteroid belt in February of 2015. These experiments by NASA in the 1970s may have been the inspiration for the legend that NASA is trying to build space vehicles pushed along by the mercury vortex engines of legend.
So despite claims that ancient scholars were aware of flying machines that used mercury as a propellant, this not something which NASA are harnessing today. Although ion engines using mercury were tested in the past they are not in use now. Equally the ancient text explaining the science of aeronautics is really not that ancient at all as it was written less than 100 years ago and doesnt actually explain the science of how to actually get into the air. In terms of myths and legends the story of the flying peacock seems like a great one but in reality there are no mercury vortex engines and especially not ones from the era of King Ravana.
(Article by Martina Redpath, Senior Education Support Officer)
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Hi,
I would like to point out that Ravana was not a myth or legend. Its history and there are proven facts that Ravana existed long ago. Europe and US do not have history more than 500 years put together. Whereas Indian Subcontinent has history more than 5000 years ago. Hence there is every possibility that knowledge and technology has been lost over such a long period.
Please correct such anamolies in your article.
Regards
Raghu
Dear Raghu, thank you for your comment. We are a scientific institution and most rely on evidence. Unfortunately I can find no credible academic source stating that Ravana was a real person rather than a mythical being or that suggest advanced technologies existed anywhere on Earth in the distant past.
U want to say that whatever you can prove in lab …..can only be evidence.
Can you prove / investigate / measure – feelings / happiness / emotions / livelihood / spirits in your lab . you are enveloping your frustrations in name material superstition.
When you state facts, there has to be actual and reliable proof. Everything else is just faith.
Also How do you explain Ramsetu then? It still exists underwater as per Satalite pictures.
First Aircraft was flown by an Indian before wright brothers using Mercury Vortex Engine (from Vaimanik Shastra). We humans are bound by an inherent limitation in our thinking, that is not to believe anything that is unproven as on that date. People who believe otherwise are proven by history to be the inventors. Today top you designs in Vaimanik Shastra will seem Aerodynamically unrealistic, I believe that there is a missing link somewhere.
I also think Vimanas in Indian history were actually flown by Aliens, Aliens have visited earth since ages. Obviously that is my belief and is actually impossible to prove.
Dear Viki, as far as I understand Ramsetu is a natural formation, its visibility from orbit has no bearing on that. See Photos no proof of Ram Setu: NASA (link)
Viki…What makes you think that todays Sri Lanka is the “old Lanka” as depicted in our books. Since we are it…Let me tell you that Lanka was located atleast 100 Yojanas away meaning 800 miles…away fron India…Sri Lanka is not located 800 miles away…
It is assumed that in Lanka of those days would have been around Maldives…And there is No setu between India and Maldives…
Now blame the Continental Drift/Plate Tectonics for the shift in position…
Dear admin,
Yours being a scientific institution, do you suggest here that you would want Ravana to come to you with his flying jet and explain you the details about the same?
I hope you grow up now, admin, and accept that the technology we have as of now is still way behind what certain civilizations had.
Good luck.
Dear Vee, yes, that would indeed be acceptable evidence and would revolutionise human knowledge.
Do you really think that is going to happen?
Did you really just not comprehend sarcasm, and you’re supposed to be the scientific mind? Scientific mind should be focused on what could be learned from, not what it is ‘certainly not’.
Hi Admin,
I read this article, it has evidence too.
Ravana is not any kind of 10 headed alien as foreign idiotic CRITICS think,
He is a dasavani, I.E., he has 10 wisdoms , means like humans we have 6 knowledge and animals has 5 knowledge like that one who attained 8 astamasidis or knowledge heor she become a siddhar, ravana has 10 knowledge so called as dasavani.. He is our TAMIL Forefathers forefather, hope do u know recently what happened in srilanka , with the help of global countries support they done a TAMIL Genocide, which the place where Ravana kingdom..
Our forefathers and siddars will tell those secrets to their sisyas living together in their ashramam and purposefully it will go in to wrong hands will lead a major destruction of world.
Tirumoolar is our forefather he prepared mercury as a fuel , as u know mercury is a heavy poisonous, but it is mixed with some amount of rathinas,diamonds,gold,tamarind and other substances ( which is not revealed for outsiders) I.E., our forefathers written everything in poetry of Tamil with hided meanings it is difficult to understand by any of them other than siddars blessings, like said he make a black hole with above substances and travelled in a speed of light to universe and time travelling.
Everything were hidden and some of the we’re destroyed purposefully during British rules.
Our head of Siddars , guru ( not to mention his name) he invented Varma kalai, through this one can control anything from anywhere, for sample 20 year china rule was controlled by Tamil during 1700..
Do I know one thing during British rule there written were destroyed by them as well as those vimanas has been brought by Germany from tanjavur family in Tamilnadu during british rules.
You people only know to invent CRITICS but do not forget even in CRITICS our Ayyadurai invented EMAIL..IF suppose he was not bought copyrights for what he invented, then it would be owned by some other foreigners using CRITICS…
Dear Ariharen, I am afraid that you are not describing science here.
Hi Ariharan,
My friend, this is not an argument. Just explaining something you to further study. Please don’t accept everything has been written in Ramayan by Warlmiki which was literary work. We can not believe that Hanuman and he can burn a Country from his tail.
King Ravana is not from India and he is not Tamil either. He is a Sinhalese. Sinha means in our mother tongue for Lions. There enough evidence with epigraph including lions’ face and more statues with lion in this land which are older than 5000 years. This is according to archaeology. These are not imaginary assumption. There are proves.
Also Pulatisi was Grandfarther of Ravana and King Vishwrasha was the farther. And elder son was “Irugal Bandara” which Bandara name is still is cultured class surname in Sri Lanka.
Also we have epigraph in Sinhala old language as evidence. The language “Sinhalese” cannot be found in any country. It is only in Sri Lanka. But tamil and similar languages can be found in India like, Malayalam, Karnatak, Telingu and may be few more.
But when you compare Sinhalese it is not similar to Tamil or any other language.
Hi Admin,
Please visit Sri Lanka and please consult some archaeologist. You can find acceptable evidence.
Thanks
BANDARA
Seriously, so a bundle of an old thermometer, a wedding ring and some fruits will create a black hole??? Apparently not all of us have the 6 knowledges, more like two…
science is completely based on INDUCTIONS. What organ do you feel gravity? it’s just a story. not the absolute truth. science give u money and war to the world. thats all.
Dear Viran, thank you for your comments. It does sound as though you realise that there is no scientific support for your point of view so you are going to disparage the concept of science instead.
Hi Raghu,
Pls get to know much about Ravana as he was a Sri Lankan. India knows very little bit about him.I’m pretty Sure.
thanks
Hey I read ur comment and correction
the Indian subcontinent has a history of more than 1 lakh years
What one hundred thousand….World history goes to over trillions and trillions years…please read Lord Buddha’s explanations….
Dear VB, I am afraid you are going beyond science here.
Ravana was a king for the whole earth who lived in Sri Lanka. 16,000 years before.
Haw are you supposed to “correct” something that is not a fact? I’ll give you a fact: Mercury was used to cure leprosy, mercury also causes toxic effects that include damage to the brain.
Don’t worry about it chief.Your not going to convince some egghead socialist institution with heads so far up thier socialist hindquarters that India’s history is far older and that it is a fact you had great technologies far beyond today’s. If they can’t find it in a scientific journal they poo poo it. We among the populace of the world believe you all. I am a native born white American who knows
Dear Gerry, thank you for your comments. I am not sure where you are getting the idea that we are promoting “socialism” here. This is an educational organisation rather than a political one.
You say about this blog
but surely you must see that people are putting forward scientific claims here but are not supporting them with evidence. For example, you say
What is the evidence that has convinced you to accept this as a fact?
They have stolen our technology and studying and making innovations and patenting in their names and made us forget our roots of wisdom ,technology,wealth and made us follow blind by making us follow english cultures which we still follow blindly.
our ancient technology is the only standard and some times they just say indian scriptures and writings are validated by nasa.But background the are studying our technology.
Truly disgusting
See we indians should have analysed our past and applied technology, knowledge and dedveloped some things new technology from past 1000 years atleast? instead of pointing some one that they have stolen our technology, whats wrong in that we dint do or dint used or never applied technology,knolwedge we never shared also. so english people that they can do some thing new and achieved. there is no proof that they have done from this ancient technology its just imagination.
but lets us not comment on Ravana, its past we dont kknow past so we dont have right declare some thing based on some documents? how do u believe documents first of all? i suggest this website people pls just publish things as its. dont comment on Hindus past charecters, we can also ask do u have proof for Jesus christ? so try to make discussion more wide,healthy rather than suppressing our feelings.
mr raghu i also point out that Europe, US are there more than 1000 years not just 500 years. of course agree ancient india is there from several 1000 years
thanks for all commenting , lets us try to develop some thing new from our past
not only ravana there are many things that relates to indian technology, but since they do not have evidence doen’t means that they didn’t existed.
i would like to suggests you some facts that relates to ancient indian technology
1. ayurveda(it basically relates to medical sciences)
2. yoga
3. astronomical sciences(very common in india)
4. ancient scruptures in bodhgaya which shows evidences of ufo’s at that time.
5. ancient temples.
Factual reports have been suppressed by the inttuders belonging to muslim religion and Europeans (Edited by Admin- please avoid terms that could be interpreted as racial slurs). They have destroyed the Takshila University having the documentation on technical and scientific developments by our ancestors. The breton supressed, destroyed the documents related to Shivdutt Bapuji Talpade…by the way…do you know who he was…? He was the first human being to make a flying machine possible…well before the Wright bros….what we actually lac has been plunged deep of the destruction….
Please change the title of the article as ancient Hindu flying technology predictions used by “NASA” not the other way round. !!!!! Please stop pretending as if u were the pioneer.
so true. They say it’s predicted, when in fact it was just rediscovered.
so then Sri Lankans were the most incredible race of all time? wow!!
Author touched up on the Shastra and NASA trials with Mercury vortex technology, but didnt care to mention, in 1895 an Indian named Talpade successfully flown a proto aircraft by following Mercuty vortext technology mentioned in Vaimanika Shastra. The unmanned aircraft flown upto 1500 feet before it crashed on to the ground, while Bright brothers in 1903 flown it just over 100feet ? Both these events done in Public view, but only that of Brights’ reported by Govt while that of Indian’s effort was not as India then under the colonial rule of British. However British Govt recorded the feat and arrested Talpade and punished him.
Dear Surendran, thanks for your comments but I do have to take issue with some of them.
One of the points of the article is that there is no such thing as “mercury vortex technology”; it seems to be a misunderstanding of the possible use of mercury as a propellent in ion thrusters.
There are no references to the existence of Vaimanika Shastra before the 1940s and even its promoters claim it was supernaturally dictated only in the first half of the twentieth century, so if you are correct Mr Talpade was very much ahead of his time!
Are you sure that you are recounting the facts of history or the plot of the 2015 movie Hawaizaada ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana
Dear admin , Have a look at the link pasted above. This was a clear that ancient indians were using vimanas !!
Dear Chinna, thank you for your comment, but note the very sentence of the entry reads
(my bolding)
thanks admin to rediscovered the thing..but one thing i want to share that pushapak viman was not created or possessed by king ravan..it was forcibly captured by lord kuber..which is treasurer of lord indra.and lord kuber was brother of Ravan..as it is maintioned in vedas.. actually pushapak viman was created or manufactured by lord chitragupta who is hindu god for architecture and engioneering,,so i think that the inventer of viman was lord chitragupta…in our hindu text it is written that when temperature of sun become very heavy..lord chitragupta made three things from the energy of sun..trishul(weopen of lord shiv),sudarshan chakra(weopen of lord vishnu), and pushapak viman.. so we indian believes that these things are made by our ancient scientist..thanks
Hi admin read the whole article & yup comments too .. i have been researching for a while about engines or propulsion systems ..& came with just few conclusion’s – A in order to get sufficient amount of thrust to travel light speed we need some serious engines powered by fusion or antimatter reactor ..the ion engines are good but can’t achieve 5% of speed of light and takes long time too.. So until those guys at ITER make the fusion possible and sustainable and unless we are successful in creating more then a gram of antimatter ….can you tell me is there any mention of any type of engines(except vortex) used in ancient types or mentioned in books or anything ….it would really help a lot ..
Dear Amit, I think you have missed the point of this article, there is no ancient book discussing advanced propulsion technology; the book in question was written in the twentieth century! However there are useful references at
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/slowerlight.php
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist.php
Admin…I am from India and a very proud Hindu. I do believe in many things about our civilization.
I must tell you…you are wasting your time…I live here and I see this everyday.
Ancient India and Hindu tradition encouraged “Debates and Discussions BASED ON FACTS”; unlike many other civilizations of those days. I can assure you that while we have found traces for every great achievement of mankind back into our books….Somehow we forgot to trace “Logical Debates and Discussions”
Many tend to glorify everything and blow it out of proportion. We dont want to read and dont have a scientific temperament….Unfortunately we lost it and you can see it here on this page.
I am pained to see these discussions…Due to this temperament…we forget glorifying what we really should…The contribution of Aryabhata and his contribution to Mathematics and Astronomy. Even here we believe in not reading but what others pass on to us…So we tend to get this one wrong too…
There are many examples of great work done by our civilization…Just like other civilizations which encouraged meritocracy at some point. Now, we encourage “mediocracy”….
I mean I can go on and on…
Hi,
King Ravanna from Sri Lanka. Not from India.
From where else daare, Great Ravanas orgin is from the Indian subcontinent only……
dear all,
how can we achieve ,when we(refer to myself as well) are still enslaved by working for foreign companies for bitter money and selling our minds for their fortunate growth ,everything existed just because science “found by human” cannot prove anything doesnt mean it doesnt exist how funny is that science Teaches as something one day and someone else disproves as otherwise ,and even more funny is that they say GOD doesnt exist and they Find sub atomic particles and name them as GOD matter stupid human and his silly mind clouding him from believing the truth in the name of science.”i do know that someone else is going to comment on this instead of understanding just to say- no you are wrong .
So you just believe anything that youre told???
Dears
We, the Indian’s are to be blamed for these type of beliefs people carry over centuries that all Indian claims about the technological advancements and knowledge abundance during ancient times are false. We, as a nation, have failed to carry forward the hereditary wealth of this knowledge. Years before, many rulers have ruled Indian subcontinent and have taken with them the wealth of knowledge, the books. Our ancestors, never realized the true value of these books and easily let them take it away. All these books believed to contain documentary evidences about our advanced technological achievements, which now may be being used by others for their research.
Have we ever tried to build research centers to study these ancient books (at least the available ones) and come up with documented evidence about any reinvention? We have not. In fact, due to political paralysis, it is impossible to move forward in this direction
So we cant blame others for not believing in our beliefs. We must change this attitude, we must take up the challenge of proving it, mainly to ourselves and take the benefit of it. Less we care about what others think about us, first rebuild that strong belief in our ancient culture and start reinventing it ..!!
Dear Admin
we always had technology far ahead of other places.
The constuction of ram setu has Been described in very detail in ramayana…..inluding the length breadth how it was done etc.
I would suggest you first read vedas…they are rich in scientific facts.if you can reand and understand tamil avvaiyaar. ..a 17th century poet in one of her poems says…”anuvai thullaithu aazh kadalai pugatti”….anu represents atom and they knew atom could be split.
In kamba ramayanam a 9th century tex when referring to God. …kambar says….”anuvilum ulan”….
Dear Admin when according to you einstein discovered atom?…
There are very detailed texts in vedas reg meru which many.misunderstand as hill but actually refers to earth’s axis.
If you are an Indian you should be ashamed when people at CERN designed the LHC based on nataraja’s stand you still says science is superior
Dear Satish, thank you for your comments.
Can you supply a citation for your assertion that “people at CERN designed the LHC based on natarajas stand”?
King Ravana wasn’t a devil (Some people think he was a alien) He invented lot of technology.According to Ramayana, the emperor Ravana was assassinated by Rama.But referring ola manuscripts, rock inscriptions and folklore of Sri Lanka, Ravana was not died at war. He was not to killed by any other common person as Dasis Ravana represented a soul of a bodhisattva.The emperor had many names as he ruled many countries. Ravanna, rabanan, ravanan, dasis, ravan, ravula are some of them. Ravana had many talents in many subjects. As a well experienced, Ayurvedic physician, the king wrote several books on medicine, Astrology. As an artist he composed Ravana raagas.King Ravana was the Founder of Civilzations like Maya Atex in South America, Egypt in Middle East. At that time he was like the Emperor who controles 10 states.The “Sura” civilizations in india doesn’t like this and they try to distroy our king as a result of it Great History of King Ravana vanish from the world.we have to find that civilization that distroy by Sura civilizations. According to Ramayana, the emperor Ravana was assassinated by Rama.But referring ola manuscripts, rock inscriptions and folklore of Sri Lanka, Ravana was not died at war. He was not to killed by any other common person as Dasis Ravana represented a soul of a bodhisattva.The emperor had many names as he ruled many countries. Ravanna, rabanan, ravanan, dasis, ravan, ravula are some of them. Ravana had many talents in many subjects. As a well experienced, Ayurvedic physician, the king wrote several books on medicine, Astrology. As an artist he composed Ravana raagas.archaeologists says that, this “Hela / Asura” civilzation is the Atlantis civilization which was distroied by nuclear war.
Dear Vishwa, thank you for your comment. When you say
Which archeologists actually say this? I was under the impression that the consensus is that Atlantis was a wholly fictional creation of Plato’s.
Great post.king ravana is the best. many people wanted to distroy ravana history.some say that ravana is not died and he will arise again.proud to be a srilankan.thnq admin.
Hi!
Keeping in mind the mythological reference in the article. Would like to point out that Ravan acquired PUSHPAK Vimaan from his half brother Kuber.
Dear Admin,
I’m a Sri Lankan and would like to bring to you a couple aspects (evidence?) you may have missed considering, before concluding that the stories related to Ravana and the legends of ancient advance technologies are likely to be only “myths”.
First and most importantly, you are searching for evidence for the legitimacy of these “myths” to be 1) already published, and then 2) that too, be translated into English. You may want to consider the fact that English is still largely a “foreign” language to the natives of the part of the world where these “myths” are found in. And not only the language, but the majority of the “social system” of the largely trade-based western civilization, is in fact, “foreign”, to the native Asian civilizations at large- even today. And please don’t forget that these countries, are only now, slowly coming out from their ashes left from their centuries-long-continuous foreign invasions (“colonization” is the word you may be more familiar with). So, for them to adapt to your system and come up with the kind of “evidence” that you would understand, is going to take a little more time than present date. Because all we have passed, is just a little over 50 years since the “liberation (?)” from the last British Empire. Much damage has been done to our native social systems and knowledge bases which preserved and transmitted our wisdom of the ancients, and much of our original books/ scriptures & even the native scholarly lineages who held the task of preserving that knowledge, have already been looted/ destroyed (evidence- please research the “Great Rebellion of 181718” in Ceylon, in which, all of the native male population above the age of 18 of one of the most important regions of the last Sri Lankan kingdom- the Kandyan Kingdom, were massacred by the Brits to defeat the rebellion- War crime investigations anyone?). With all this in mind, please also do not forget that in our native systems, wisdom was passed down through oral traditions, more than through writing, and that over (at least) 5000 years has passed since the time of the great king Ravana and the relevant Indian societies.
So over such a long period of time, obviously the world went through several changes and the legends you hear today, would have accumulated much distortions. We ourselves are aware of this when we read our legends, but, are you?
Since I presume you have little understanding of our Asian cultural ways of story telling, may I enlighten you, that it is very normal in our traditions, even today; that a lot of the complex details are given as “analogies” to simplify, and also sometimes “hide” their deeper sciences/ secrets, so that only the advanced intellectuals are able to decipher them when they come across them. Because advance scientific knowledge was not freely transmitted to the general public by our scholars (this not so “odd” since, many modern western advance innovations, are guarded by their respective governments – even today).
I am not claiming to be the expert of this subject myself, but if you may, please research a little more into the following, so that you may want to look at your above conclusion with a renewed, more informed, and a more open minded perspective. After-all, modern-day science is about evolving itself, to reach closer to the ultimate truth.
Topics directly related to Ravana & his Vimana Technologies:
1) Ancient “Yantras” & “Mantras” – our native sciences of harnessing laws of physics (substance) and energies (mantras- mainly sound energy)
2) The biochemical and chemical basics behind preparations of the ancient “herbal concoctions” used in these.
3) Our numerical/ mathematical systems- which the west had borrowed from east originally, and then developed to the current branch with their own logics (ancient ones of the east are believed to be a different branch altogether).
4) For living Archeological evidences- the sciences of architecture behind ancient sites of South Indian (Dravidian) / Sri Lankan (Hela civilization is the native Sri Lankan civilization as it was known back then) heritage such as Sigiriya Rock Palace Complex (Sri Lanka) and Angkor Wat (in Cambodia). Research a bit into their (Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia) history to see their connection with Ravana. So, not just in South India+ Sri Lanka, Ravana is believed to have influenced/ instilled several remarkable “bases/ advance structures” through-out the planet, Sri Lankan researchers on Ravana, now speculate that his empire could have spread, not just to the near South East Asia, but also as far as to the Middle East, and Americas itself (Assirian, Mayan & Aztec civilizations- research for the similarities on their irrigation systems with that of ancient Sri Lanakn – eg. man built-reservoir irrigation systems which are still existent in the island and working better than the newly built ones), because of his “aeronautic scientific” achievements (It is believed that this wisdom was not readily shared by all of his own family members, let alone the rest of the country/ region – again, you need to research into the culture to understand these aspects).
But for all these to be “published” in western dominated scientific journals of the present time, it’s going to take more time (given they are allowed at all- Political monopolies have known to delay/ influence such) But our academic scientists are now making active progress using your scientific requirements and designs/ equipment’s none-the-less, to research the archeological evidences of our past (evidence of advance social civilizations, with the capability to use iron long before the European ancestors could have already been confirmed, along with uses of porcelain instead of high porous clay products, and advance stone manipulations/ carvings, are already found).
So, it may only be a matter of time, before the west starts seeing the evidence you so fairly (from your end) demand. Maybe not. Let us be patient, and see. It’s possible that the current theories of how civilizations progressed (eg. Aryan theories) – which are established by the Europeans & their descendants, are about to be challenged otherwise, by Asians, in this century. If so, it should be interesting to both parties, because after all, that’s how modern science progress, is it not? So let us wait and see.
Thank You, if you took the time to read through all.
Enjoy your Day!
Ancient Vedic science Nimisharda is a phrase used in Indian languages of Sanskrit
origin while referring to something that happens/moves instantly, similar to the
blink of an eye. Nimisharda means half of a Nimesa, (Ardha is half).
In Sanskrit Nimisha means blink of an eye and Nimisharda implies within the
blink of an eye. This phrase is commonly used to refer to instantaneous events.
Below is the mathematical calculations of a research done by S S De and P V Vartak
on the speed of light calculated using the Rigvedic hymns and commentaries on them.
The fourth verse of the Rigvedic hymn 1:50 (50th hymn in book 1 of rigveda) is as
follows:
ޤޤޤޤޤޥޤޤޤޥޤޤޤޥޤޤޥ ޤޤޥޤޤޤޥޤޥޤޥޤޤޤ ޤޥޤޥޤ | ޤޤޤޥޤޤޤ ޤޤޤޤޤޥޤޤޤ |
taraNir vishvadarshato jyotishkrdasi surya | vishvamaa bhaasirochanam ||
which means:
Swift and all beautiful art thou, O Surya (Surya=Sun), maker of the light, Illumining
all the radiant realm.
Commenting on this verse in his Rigvedic commentary, Sayana who was a minister in
the court of Bukka of the great Vijayanagar Empire of Karnataka in South India (in
early 14th century) says:
tatha ca smaryate yojananam. sahasre dve dve sate dve ca yojane ekena
nimishardhena kramaman. which means It is remembered here that Sun (light)
traverses 2,202 yojanas in half a nimisha
NOTE: Nimisharda= half of a nimisha.
In the vedas Yojana is a unit of distance and Nimisha is a unit of time.
Unit of Time: Nimesa.
The Moksha dharma parva of Shanti Parva in Mahabharata describes Nimisha as
follows: 15 Nimisha = 1 Kastha.
30 Kashta = 1 Kala,
30.3 Kala = 1 Muhurta,
30 Muhurtas = 1 Diva-Ratri (Day-Night),
We know Day-Night is 24 hours So we get 24 hours = 30 x 30.3 x 30 x 15 nimisha, in
other words 409050 nimisha.
We know 1 hour = 60 x 60 = 3600 seconds.
So 24 hours = 24 x 3600 seconds = 409050 nimisha.
409050 nimesa = 86,400 seconds,
1 nimesa = 0.2112 seconds (This is a recursive decimal! Wink of an eye=.2112
seconds!).
1/2 nimesa = 0.1056 seconds.
Unit of Distance:
Yojana Yojana is defined in Chapter 6 of Book 1 of the ancient vedic text Vishnu
Purana as follows:-
10 ParamAnus = 1 Paraskshma,
10 Paraskshmas = 1 Trasarenu,
10 Trasarenus = 1 Mahrajas (particle of dust),
10 Mahrajas= 1 Blgra (hairs point),
10 Blgra = 1 Likhsha,
10 Likhsha= 1 Yuka,
10 Yukas = 1 Yavodara (heart of barley),
10 Yavodaras = 1 Yava (barley grain of middle size),
10 Yava = 1 Angula (1.89 cm or approx 3/4 inch),
6 fingers = 1 Pada (the breadth of it),
2 Padas = 1 Vitasti (span),
2 Vitasti = 1 Hasta (cubit),
4 Hastas = a Dhanu,
1 Danda, or paurusa (a mans height),
or 2 Nriks = 6 feet,
2000 Dhanus = 1 Gavyuti (distance to which a cows call or lowing can be heard) =
12000 feet 4 Gavyutis = 1 Yojana = 9.09 miles
Calculation: So now we can calculate what is the value of the speed of light in modern
units based on the value given as 2202 Yojanas in 1/2 Nimesa = 2202 x 9.09 miles per
0.1056 seconds = 20016.18 miles per 0.1056 seconds = 189547 miles per second !!
As per the modern science speed of light is 186000 miles per second ! And so I
without the slightest doubt attribute the slight difference between the two values to
our error in accurately translating from Vedic units to SI/CGS units. Note that we
have approximated 1 Angula as exactly 3/4 inch. While the approximation is true,
the Angula is not exactly 3/4 inch.
Very good and detailed information shashank.
Hilarious! A sickening huge bunch of modern Indian pseudo scientists ‘imparting’ ‘knowledge’.
I can’t believe these people. First learn what is science. Even Norse mythology says about flying stuff and people. Doesn’t mean they existed. Oh I’m sorry… Now you all are gonna say Norse is followers of Hindu mythology:-p
And… I guess srilankans where far advanced than Indians coz they invented flying machines:-p lol
Please. Give be a break
OK, i have another example there is a Hindu spiritual book “hanuman chalisa” .
In Hanuman Chalisa, it is said : “Yug sahastra yojan per Bhanu(Bhanu=sun)! Leelyo taahi madhur phal janu!!
1 Yug = 12000 years
1 Sahastra = 1000
1 Yojan = 8 Miles
Yug x Sahastra x Yojan = par Bhanu
12000 x 1000 x 8 miles = 96000000 miles
1 mile = 1.6kms
96000000 miles = 96000000 x 1.6kms = 153,600,000 km to Sun
and according to NASA the distance is 149,600,000 km
Dear Vijay, thanks for your comments, however I have several questions:
a) What is Sahastra (and what units is it measured in)?
b) What relevance do these quantities have to astronomy?
c) Is a 4.77% error acceptable
Sahastra means one thousand in Sanskrit. It doesn’t have any units, it’s just an integer. Even though I know that shloka, I didn’t know the actual numerical meaning. For that time I guess you might discount that error %. I like your scientific temperament and that’s fair thing to do.
The shloka is written by Goswami Tulsidas in around 15th century. (I guess – check Wikipedia for correctness ), he translated the Sanskrit Ramayana to Awadhi language. So the actual reference would be from Ramayana written by Vashisht (undated I believe or can’t be ascertained).
Dear Shuklaz, thank you for the clarification.
I am just appalled that majority of the people who have commented here are not only ignorant about science but also about history… when the admin has asked about citation, they are not able to produce one and yet they speak as if they are the expert.. people who make tall claims please provide accurate citation and evidence so that i could look into these facts…
Thanks for trying to decode Hinduism…
Hinduism it self pure and complete science and far reached beyond science can not perceived by normal humans or machines … though humans have just decode lots of from old scripture of Hinduism but that’s like few drops of infinite ocean, And there is only way to understand Hinduism truly and completely live like a Hindu.
sarve sukhinah santu…
Om…
Dear Piyush, thank you for your comment but please note that the aim of this article is not to “decode Hinduism”, rather to address the claim in the title.
Dear Admin,
I am very much Indian and I am really happy to see you gathering huge patience to reply to the preposterous claims made here by people from my country. I usually almost never comment on any public blogs, but I happened to stumble upon this blog and understand a well written article.
I would like to apologise on behalf of my countrymen, lest you think it is a country of only fools.
India has bigger problems than such claims. I implore my friends to please be all the more wiser and employ your time and resources in achieving development rather than Idling away precious resources posting false claims and half cooked knowledge.
It only portrays how gullible and ignorant you are. Be nice to the people (admin) who are humouring you and answering your childish queries with lot of respect.
If you are truly proud of your country and heritage, please do something today that will make you and your future generations proud.
– A Proud Indian, engineering technologist, logician…
AGN,
Excellent and appropriate observation! But who has the wherewithal to actually engage with the significance of the reality check that you have sought to provide here? I also salute the charitable disposition demonstrated by Admin. Well done indeed!!
Hi,
A Sri Lankan here. There’s absolutely no credible evidence in any form whatsoever regarding Ravana in my country. It’s just a myth. Not a single piece of historical document which mentions about Ravana nor flying machines.
Hi tothecore,
If u do not know the facts just keep shut. There are plenty of evidences in Sri lanka regarding king Ravan. There are written evidences also which we protect generation to generation in secretly.
Yeah…and its a secret because??? People need to question things, not believe without a reason. Ask why, just like children do. The moment we stop asking, is the moment we stop growing.
Dear admin. Don’t get serious or waste your precious time on comments here. I believe Valmiki( Who wrote the Ramayanaya fiction novel. That’s the only place Ravana lives) is laughing in his grave.
(Edited for language-ADMIN)
Dear Admin,
Many have given you some details about expertise of ancient Indians, but you didn’t beleive because they were unable to provide you with any kind of citation.
Well can provide you one which is still standing on this face of earth.
Go, and search for “IRON PILLAR” in New Delhi it, of which the whole history provides the evidence, was made of NON CORROSIVE IRON PROCESSING, which is still standing without any rust, even in fractional percentage, since many centuries. This is an example of metallurgical expertise.
There is no such fine technology present anywhere in the current world which can replicate the same process, not even with developed nations.
Yes you can process IRON to the purity level of 99.98%, but till 100% no body can.
This is what my fellow brothers were telling about the ancient science of Indian Subcontinent.
Link is also provided. Please shed some disagreement, if you have any.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_pillar_of_Delhi
Dear Ravindra, thank you for your link but I hope you understand that the existence of this example of amazing craftmanship does not prove the twentieth century hoax of ancient flying machines to be true.
By the way, we are in no way denying the rich history of science and technology in India. Astronomers in India built tremendous instruments and observatories, sadly more people seem interested in fantasies and hoaxes than these real achievements.
Dear admin, this is my first ever coment on others coment. I don’t know who you are, which counrty you belongs and what religion you believes (or not). As far as my concern I am half believer of god & quarter believer of scince (because we as humans have to prove lot of things). I am completely agree with what you have said. Threre is no existence god all the mythology is imaginary of anicents. I didn’t have vast knowledge peoples like you and who commented on. Just I am a matriculated. But, I have some doubts in my mind which needs clarifications (please help me).
1. Every one has same size of brain (approximately) as per science, but, every persons thoughts are different, even we came from hardly one or two branches of home sapience or something else. Everybodies body’s shapes and sizes are diffrent. Even after biological brothers or sisters and one more thing even their genes are different why?
2. One thing which we both have to agree that only one who have vast knowledge he thinks better than others means valmiki is the person who have that much imagination power to think about vimana’s (flying objects) in thousands of years ago in his written Ramayana. Which still not understood to me, no one think to fly till one or two centuries before. In between philosopher like Socrates or one who uses his brain much more than any body else i.e., Sir, Newton even he did’t thought about to fly. It means who is more inteligent? Moreover, we are proving that he is ringht by flying in the sky. I hope we ( all human kind not only Indians) might be prove that we can travel from one planet to another in near future. Beause, we started thinking about it now only.
3. One thing always hurts me that we made lot of machines but every machine is not success even made in same factory and same techinology, same metals & ingriedents even it is made by NASA because there are lot failed missions in NASA’s hands why,what is the scientific cause for this?
4. How many deceases initially borne in India and spread in the world? (Cause might be Indians ancient food culture, which have different spices & herbs). (400 word anecdote removed- ADMIN)
5. Ancient Indians have most experience and knowledge than others that’s why told us to avoid ill treating to others even it is an animal or a mistake committed person. This thing founds entire Indian writings even Mahaveera’s or Buddh’s teachings tell us. I have lot Of doubts to ask you if you can reply me. One more thing there are some rumers about NASA’s moon mission with human being landed on moon. Same condions are available in USA’s backyard and all the scens are shooted there only. I think the rumers are right because there is a cause there even after 40 -50 years of first mission no other man mission to moon has not been sent by NASA to know water, minerals, etc. If you have any tape to prove, I am not going accept you because there are lot space travelling Hollywood movies I have seen and I think you also seen them (I alredy told that you are right because I also thinks like you). Tell me now how can you going to prove it? (One more thiny I have never seen the god but believes on him (half) because there so many things we con’t prove it scientifcally) I only beliefs in to do the best from me lefts remaining god. I like one one hindu (I believe in all relegions) quotation “god is everywhere and find him either in your work or any animal or any human or even any man made thing”.
Please reply me because this is my first comment. Your eagerly waiting brother. (excuse for spelling & gramstical mistakes).
Dear K, thank you for your questions. I am sorry I had to edit your post but you must understand that it was extremely long (1050 words) and also that a large portion was relating to your medical experiences and opinions on the medical profession. We are astronomers and not doctors here, we are not qualified to judge the validity of your claims. I will try to answer your questions as best as I can.
I cannot answer that as it is far removed from my field. Really you need to put this question to a neurologist. Sorry.
I’m sorry but I do not understand the question, could you ask it in another way?
I can answer this as I have previous worked in aerospace manufacturing. Components of aircraft, rockets, spacecraft etc are made by people. Every person no matter how skilled can make errors so occasionally a substandard part is made. After parts are made there are then processes to test and inspect them and reject anything that is substandard, but these cannot be 100% successful either, so occasionally a substandard part is not rejected and ends up being used in the finished vehicle. Usually this is not as bad as it sounds as aircraft and rockets are highly over-engineered to prevent a single component failure leading to disaster, but sometimes this is not enough leading to a crash or mission failure. For spacecraft too, you must remember that they can be unique designs so there may not be the experience to know where failures can occur.
I’m sorry but we cannot answer medical questions, you should look elsewhere.
This is very off-topic but I can say that the Apollo Moon missions are some of the best and most thoroughly documented events in history. In addition the body of scientific and engineering knowledge developed for the Apollo project and discovered through it is used daily by astronomers, geologists and engineers. All this field of knowledge is a complete and self-consistent set of evidence. Everyone who uses it accepts that the Moon landings occurred as reported, just as biologists accept that whales are mammals and historians accept that World War One began in 1914. You really need to read our articles on the Apollo missions (link) especially 5 Goofy Moonlanding Hoax Theories (link) and Apollo 18: the truth about the lost Moon missions (link).
I hope this this has helped you.
Ravan vimana( plane) is found in afganistan and it is put inside time well from where it could not be taken out some of us soldiers have been lost removing plane,which runs on vortex engine.
Serch on google its true.
Dear Amar, surely you must understand that something is not automatically true just because it has been published on the internet?
Jst forget abt the Indian culture and all the other traditional mythical everything , Can you westeners or other people who are criticizing that facts that so called rumours explain how the geoglyphs formed and stonehedge now one knows how it formed . There were aliens who we considered the mythical gods and their flying machine everything. Our and your gods all are mythical true as per epics . When there is a fact that is a fact that everyone should believe . For us it Lord shiva on Mount kailash for greeks it is Zeus On Mount Ida . Almost the epic around the world are bit similar.
Check out the facts Please
Dear Vamsi, thanks for your comments. Unfortunately I’m not so sure I agree 100% with your research there.
Thousands of archaeologists and historians would beg to differ! For a start see this link.
Really? Where is the evidence?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_mythology
http://sharathkomarraju.com/2014/07/03/7-parallels-between-hindu-and-greek-mythology/
check this
Geoglyphs drawing on earth visible from space .Are those done by man or alien ?
Human beings obviously!
Dear Admin
I thank you for your objective analysis based on information that was available to you. Some of my Indian friends above, in their zeal to contradict, have not been fair and objective as you have been. Please overlook their tone and i request you to look further into some of the points raised (or which may still be available but you might have overlooked). I am a believer of science and even i take religigious teachings with a pinch of salt but texts like “Rig Veda” (Please look it up, it is not like “Vaimanika Shatra) is not merely a religious document but a treatise or source of ancient knowledge. Such texts have been unanimously dated to have been written thousands of years ago. Without going into whether Rig veda gives an enabling disclosure (i practice patent law ;)) of an aircraft, I find it very fascinating to see that such documents, dated thousand years old, even talk about ideas such as flight using mercury, heat, solar power. Of course, more evidence is needed to actually find a workable model or disclosure. But do’nt you think that even an idea can be worth some recognition when the same is conceived so many years before any known civilisation existed. I don’t say NASA copied anything because that is not fair. I am saying it is worth exploring (scientifically) as to how such old documents mention almost precisely the fundamental of ‘modern’ ideas as Ion trust engine using mercury propellant? Initially even i rejected such ideas but i came across a paper by some enthusiastic engineering students from india at this link. They do not rely only on “Vaimanik Shastra” but other sources as well. You may note that a lot of references/citations in this paper may have to be independently searched (googled) as you may not have heard of them. http://www.ijeit.com/Vol%204/Issue%203/IJEIT1412201409_08.pdf
Dear all don’t teach so called scientists they are not come out of material universe. and srilanka was the part of Great Universal hindu Civilisation but Britishers divided Bharat in to More than 23 part.
Dear Darshan, thank you for your comment, but you will need to clarify them. I do not know what you mean when you say
I came by this article because someone sent me a whatsapp post that made somewhat the very same claims examined in this article. Obviously, I took it with a very big lump of salt, but was intrigued enough to want to check out the provenance of these claims.
I am struck by two things – and AGN has already pointed these out – one, the incredulity of large numbers of supposedly educated of my countrymen (in India, knowledge of English is indicative of some exposure to a modern educational system), and two, the patience and courtesy displayed by Admin in his replies to these persons.
I fear for the future of my country if the mindsets on display here are so widely prevalent.
Dear Krishnamoorthy, thank you for your kind words!
I missed Shami’s comment. It is a thoughtful response. Of course, it can neither be proven nor disproven. I do agree that then relatively advanced civilisations of South Asia were laid waste by centuries of Moslem and then European invasions. While the Muslims did not succeed in destroying Indian education, the British did suceed quite extensively through Macualay’s project.
I also agree that insistence on accepting only publication in peer reviewed journals as proof will make it impossible to establish the credibility of any “native claims” and suggests chauvinism, if not racism. As many histories of science have shown, South Asian civilisations did possess superior knowledge of mathematics, science and technology. Even if the maths does not meet present day standards of proof and the science does not satisfy present day experimental standards.
However, that is by the by. ,Despite the relative advancement and sophistication of South Asian civilisations during their times, I do not think that it is credible that they had flying machines at their disposal.
Hi. It is very interesting debate. I am from India, but never believed the theory of Vimanas. Yet, I just saw the documentary on Netflix on Ancient Aliens, which repeatedly quoted book on Vimanas by Bhardwaj. Therefore, I felt probably some credence needs to be given. But you have clarified its origin, and I thank you for that. The whole series of 14 episodes was impressive in the beginning, when some facts were presented on impossibility of some constructions in the past without alien help. Yet, as you progress through the series of episodes, it appears to be humbug and defies logic. Still, I am wondering what is mercury vortex engines as Hitler too used some sort of mercury in the world war II.
Dear Diamondblue, thank you for your comments. I’d just like point out that the Ancient Aliens TV show appears to be nonsensical rubbish rather than a respected academic source and all the stories of weird Nazi technology based on mercury were invented by a Polish journalist in the 1990s and elaborated on by others ever since.
Is my coment posted.
Dear K, please be patient, comments to this blog are moderated 9am-5pm (UK time), Monday to Friday only.
Dear Admin,
First offal sorry for asking questions about medicine based. And my name is Prabhakar and my title is K, if you calls me K Prabhakar, I feel very happy.
2. You are giving the reference of Hollywood movies, which are imaginary. If we takes them in to count, then people will give us references of bollywood, tollywood & koliwood references where there are lot of movies about Ramayana & Mahabharata. As for as documentation concern, then ‘Rig Veda’, Ramayana & Mahabharstha already writen before thousands of years, which is not accepted by both of us. If NASA or any other institution is not able to control the mercury’s and sesum’s high radio active and toxins, it does’t meen that the are not useful. Moreover, impulse rate of mercury (beem diameter is 10cm- 5000) is grater than xenon(beem diameter is13cm -2565). Which is currently in use of NASA’s space missions. Please comment.
3. I want to give you some references of existing of vimanas in ancient times ie., Photographs of flying obects of ancient sights (not from India) of Egypt. Can we take them to count or not please comment.
4. There is a rock structure found to archiologists’ of Germany at Jupiter temple in Lebanon (not in India) belongs to 7000 BC. Which is weighing 1600+ tons approx. Most intresting this is, the rock was crafted from all sides perfectly to rectangular. If we think about it, how much machinery is requited in these days to lift and craft it and how did they done those days. It’s seems technology in the ancient times also too good inough ( please don’t say that this is not pertains to aeronautics science or space science as science and machinery is completely connected to each other). Please see this wesite -ancient-origins.net/news-genera… ( which is definitly not an Indian invention). Please give some clarification to me.
5. You answered one of my questions that ‘ some parts are sub standard, and 100% checking of them is not possible, which may causes to the failure of missions(Why?). One more thing, it means NASA sents their missions on their fate. Without properly checking them, I may be (because I already told you that I am half beliver of god and quarter beliver of science) agree with you but NASA never be. (I think proper tests will be done even before sending their new type of componet machies/ rockets into the space.) It’s means some times mistakes may occure by both i,e., man and machines, it’s not sounds good and not the correct answer for my question because scince doesn’t approves ‘some times yes some times no’. Please clarify.
Dear K Prabhakar, thank you for your comments. Unfortunately I do not understand many of your points. For example I do not see what you mean in your movie comments.
As mentioned in the article, xenon is used in NASA’s ion thrusters instead of mercury because mercury is so toxic and difficult to clean up that the lower efficiency of xenon is still preferable.
The stone block you refer to is not dated to 7000BC, but from the 1st century BC. It is in a quarry used at that time by Roman engineers and cut by the same techniques used across Europe by the Romans. We know that Romans and other ancient peoples used rollers, ramps, levers etc to move blocks 500 tons plus in weight, presumably they hoped to do the same here. This stone is in no way evidence for extraterrestrial visitations. Questions about history and archeology would be better addressed to experts in those fields.
I still do not understand what you are really asking with your queries on manufacturing and testing. Rockets, spacecraft and all their components are tested as thoroughly as is feasible. Testing of components is done to specifications which say how much testing is acceptable based on, among other things, the cost of testing compared to the cost of failure and the estimated probability of failure. 100% testing is pretty well impossible.
Please remember, this comments section is for discussing the articles on our blog, it is not just for posting general questions on topics that interest you.
thanks admin to rediscovered the thing..but one thing i want to share that pushapak viman was not created or possessed by king ravan..it was forcibly captured by lord kuber..which is treasurer of lord indra.and lord kuber was brother of Ravan..as it is maintioned in vedas.. actually pushapak viman was created or manufactured by lord chitragupta who is hindu god for architecture and engioneering,,so i think that the inventer of viman was lord chitraguptain our hindu text it is written that when temperature of sun become very heavy..lord chitragupta made three things from the energy of sun..trishul(weopen of lord shiv),sudarshan chakra(weopen of lord vishnu), and pushapak viman.. so we indian believes that these things are made by our ancient scientist..thanks
Dear Rajeev, thanks for your comments but I am afraid that you are not describing science here.
dear admin..here i want to correct my previeous post that this was not lord chitragupta..it was lord vishawakarma,the hindu god of architecture and engeneering..so according that the inventer and manufacturer of viman(aeroplane) was lord vishawakarma…verify by hindu text ved and puran..check it..
(366 words copied and pasted from Wikipedia article on an irrelevant topic without attribution removed, what point do you think you are making by doing this?- Admin)
I am from Sri Lanka can you please change EMPEROR RAVANA’S picture you have in this websites this pictures is only used to explain how power full he is.
If you need a proper picture I can email you.
King Ravana is from SRI LANKA we have enough evidence to prove that, we are now exploring most of the evidences. If you are interested please let me know I can send you more info about KING RAVANA.
TQ
Thanks Admin,
This article is quite interesting.
Can you please explain me the mechanism of “mercury Vortex engine” ?
I am bit curious about what happens to gaseous mercury, how those magnets separates the ions ?
Can you please throw some light?
Regards
Ashish
If something is found in written.it doesnt mean it is onli litreary work.in afganistan,5000 thousand years old vimana found.8 us militant disappear removing this vimana.after that world leaders visited afganistan.what would say about this??
Dear Ashutosh, I am afraid that I will need some evidence before I believe this!
Devotee are not feel science and fact…. And that is main causes that India ‘s talente not stay here in India for doing well wishing for his/ her country research and development department…. And India talent escape from India….!! Devotee Crowds here in…India are dangerous for research and development and also for democracy
This is true.
I am also researching on mercury engine.
When the UFO’S come down from the sky’s. Not giving man a chance to wipe the dust off his eyes. That’s the day the earth will be through. Don’t worry my man of few That’s the day the earth will be new. BY Joseph Mosijowsky
Scientific quest doesn’t mean negating or accepting things blindly. Many of our friends just exhibit their pride of our culture more instead of putting forth evidences for their claim that ancient Indian or Tamil culture had most advanced flying objects. One cannot blindly accept the excuse that all the scientific evidences were destroyed during the 300 years of Brirish rule. How then did the Vedic scriptures survived? Don’t they have any concrete evidence to prove the world about our ancient scientific advancements. Who else would have more pride than we if we are proved to be a more advanced race in the earth?
If Indian knowledge about vedas is wrong then why did NASA take the vedas, Ramayana, Mahabharatha, Panchaanga book to US. Why don’t NASA just accept that they come to know about when will solar eclipse gonna happen by reffering to Panchanga books.
In Ramayana the Ramaa setu is there. Even now its there. Its made of special rock which is not available in the whole world. If western people do researches and proove its correct then its correct. If we people do researches and proove its correct even then its wrong. Why so?
Atlantis city is not yet discovered. But western people still say it exist. Great fiction.
But Dwaraka nagar of Lord Krishna is under water and is prooved fact.
Western country has no history like we Indians have.
When middle East countries attacked India it is said that many of our ancient universities were destroyed which contained lots of books of vedas and many knowledge.
We Indians have now come to know what knowledge we have from our ancestors. So it’s our duty to protect all the ancient knowledge and books. Otherwise it will happen like how during independence how british took away the precious Kohinoor daimond from India. Atleast now we can take care of all these books and knowledge we have.
Dear Mohanraj, thank you for your comments. You must understand that it is essential for you to supply evidence if your assertions are to be believed.
The ability to fly is like playing with toys. its not worth the time discussing who invented which first! But, to all the sri lankans commented here:
You might want to read this (and then read some more)
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.20.0.than.html
and listen to this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QF4VbjT8M0 ( this video series is an attempt to teach most complex part of buddhism – abhidharma in a simplified manner. at minimum you will at-least gain a deeper insight into universe, matter, life and you will be amazed how comprehensive and detailed these teachings are, and realize why flying is not all that important at all!!!).
I am from India and all I want to say to the admin is that you have an extraordinary amount of patience!
Almost all the comments here made by my fellow countrymen are profoundly lacking in – credible citations, logical consistency, scientific rigour, and are quite cringeworthy to say the least. These people are no better than those bible thumping zealots who believe the earth to be 6000 years old.
Yet you have patiently addressed each one of them, it’s really commendable.
admin,
i admire your patience and tact in replying to the comments here !
Dear Admin,
Hats off to your patience. Keep your good work going on.
Dear fellow Indians,
I’m a proud Indian and I really love to see uncovered texts and its real meanings. To add credibility to any advanced technology described in our ancient texts or inscriptions, we first need to uncover the texts and practically implement the methods and prove the references.
Without doing that It’s immature to just cite things we read and hear around. If we really want to take pride from our culture and history, its vital to prove its credibility.
Please take my comment in positive way and work something constructive rather than being silent spectators and take false pride.
Why did this just turn into an argument about a mythical fairy tale?