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      Pulsar ALFA Surveys

Jim Cordes (Cornell U.)


A more detailed version of this talk by the speaker is available in PDF or PPT format.

The pulsar consortium met on 1-2 November 2002 in Arecibo. A report is available on the web as is a summary of the talks presented at the meeting. At the meeting, we appointed a coordination committee with 8 members which I chair. The Point of Contact (POC) at AO is Paulo Freire.

Preliminary parameters for the pulsar surveys will produce on the order of 1 Pbyte of raw data over the course of 3-5 years. Long term archiving is an immediate challenge.

Targeted classes of pulsars

Why more pulsars?

Our objectives are to try to double the number of known pulsars. We hope to find 1000 more in the galactic plane alone. More pulsars will include extreme pulsars, say those with

Study of such objects are of interest for numerous applications:

Pulsar search requirements

Dmax ve Flux density threshhold suggests a low integration time which thus leads you to be luminosity limited. But as you increase t$_{\rm int}$, you become limited by first dispersion and then by scattering. Like everyone, we will need to trade off to develop optimal survey strategy.

Possible Surveys

  1. Deep survey of galactic plane of available (to Arecibo) longitudes covering 3 to 5 degrees in latitude
  2. Less deep intermediate latitude
  3. Deep surveys towards specific objects
  4. Extragalactic targets, for example M33
  5. Piggyback (with other projects)

Requirements for Galactic plane:

This translates to about 3 years at 50% of galactic plane R.A. Of course, such a large allocation has to be discussed in light of other programs using Arecibo but note that NRAO has a large survey projects benchmark number of 50% of time in any RA range.

Comparison of AO, GBT and Parkes

The Parkes Multibeam Pulsar Survey adopted an integration time of 2100 sec. Surveys with ALFA need only 20 sec to match this sensitivity, but we want 300 sec to go much deeper. A simulation of a galactic plane search with ALFA predicts that we should detect 1000 new pulsars. A plot of the distribution in galactic coordinates of what ALFA surveys should detect in the galactic plane compared with other surveys shows that an ALFA survey would go much deeper into the Galaxy than other surveys.

Spectrometer

For pulsar surveys, we require the following in a spectrometer:

A decision needs to be made rapidly on how such a device can be constructed in time for ALFA.

Intermediate latitude survey

Another possible pulsar survey would be conducted at intermediate latitudes. It would require about 1500 hours of telescope time. The dwell time more like 60 sec, with fair amount of flexibility.

Issues for optimizing surveys.

We have identified a number of issues that must be explored before we settle on the survey strategy:

"search" vs. "confirmation": Historically, these are two different phases. Parkes spent as much time confirming as they did in the initial survey.

What next?

Defined 5 working groups:

  1. Surveys
  2. Data Acquisition
  3. Post processing
  4. Data management
  5. Follow up observations

At our meeting, the pulsar consortium developed a final formal structure organizational chart with organization, coordinating committee and tasks assigned to each subcommittee.

Chair selection: JMC was elected temporarily, 2 week period afterwards process for election but no one volunteered. Further process needs to be specified; one idea is for rotating committee chairs.

Preliminary protocols:

Data Management

Pilot Database Storage with Cornell Technology Center


Discussion/Questions:

Murray L. Could you make your survey observations during the daytime?
Jim Probably. It largely depends on RFI.
Don C. Could you reduce integration time/pass?
Jim Yes. But at a cost of course.
Steve S. Could you offset half a beam?
Jim Yes.
Chris S. What the draft guidelines said was that 18 months is the current proprietary period. It was stated then that the issue needed to be discussed.
Riccardo G. The proprietary period at other national observatories is zero for large projects.
Jim The proprietary period for GRO was one year.
Lister Would you consider a scanning survey with telescope slowly moving.
Jim It depends on how slow. Is that for sampling issues?
Lister Yes.
Jim If it were slow enough. It would add more complexity to processing but we can deal with motion.
Phil P. 1PByte costs about 1 dollar per GB, so your archiving needs cost at least 1 million dollars.
Jim True. We don't need it all at once.
Desh The typical pipeline delay with regular proposals is 6 months from submitting proposal to getting on telescope.
Jim One of the issues we discussed is what happens, in the case that the raw data were available immediately, if a rogue pulsar group comes along and downloads all the data.
Phil P. How long would it take to download that amount of data?
Jim What if it could be stored locally.
Murray Could you expand a bit on the thinking on protection of student projects?
Jim Say we acquire a certain block of data and a PhD student will do follow up. We would like to insure some protection so that no other consortium member could do that project.
Murray But not protection of data.
Jim Right.
Desh So protection is really for the follow-up rather than for the raw data.
Jim In a sense yes.
Riccardo What is mimumum acceptable integration time for the high latitude survey?
Jim People have done drift scans (12 sec/beam), but they have not been all that successful. However, another very interesting option might be to look for transients even for a few seconds, especially if there were multiple passes of the same region.


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